Case Number : CT0019 Dr. Richard Carr

Dr. Mona Abdel-Halim - Cutaneous Rosai Dorfman Disease

Guest Romuald - I think the apparent presence of emperipolesis takes precedence over other uncommon findings and agree with Mona, although the presence of eosinophils and Touton-like giant cells brings to mind the diagnosis of xanthogranuloma.

Guest Mazen charaf iddin - agree with Dr Mona

Guest Rodrigo Restrepo - Agree, cutaneous Rosai Dorfman Disease.
 
Robledo F. Rocha - There are more eosinophils than would make me feel confortable with the hypothesis of Rosai-Dorfman disease. Thus, I’m tending towards an alternative diagnosis like solitary reticulohistiocytoma. Touton-type giant cells, emperipolesis, and inflammatory infiltrate with numerous eosinophils can occur in solitary reticulohistiocytoma.

Mark A. Hurt MD - My bias is the spectrum of xanthogranuloma-reticulohistiocytoma. I do agree that this lesion has some features of Destombes-Rosai-Dorfman disease. I would like to see some immunos at this point.
 
Sasi Attili - This is a common conundrum we face and a routine exam case where people are marked on their ability to spell the right name. I favour this to be in the solitary RH spectrum, but I don't think the histiocytes have the typical ground-glass cytoplasm. I agree that lesion has quite a few features as those described in cutaneous RDD and immunos are necessary (CRDD is S100 +ve while RH is -ve). However, I don't really believe that this is an entity distinct from a solitary RH- apart from the S100 +vity and obvious emperipolesis. CRDD I believe is within the spectrum of RH, as it is usually does not progress to systemic RDD and is distinct from systemic RDD.. So the name CRDD is actually confusing, unless we agree to call all lesions with Emperipolesis and S100 +vity cutaneous RDD and that is the definition of it! But I am not sure to what purpose it serves to split similar entities and create confusion? I believe both are reactive phenomenon (like cutaneous pseudolymphoma.... but with a different cellular/ immuno profile). Both are derived from Histiocytes. One is S100 +ve and the other isn't! In fact even a Xanthogranuloma being histiocyte derived, is in the same spectrum, but with a different immuno profile. The prognosis/ treatment is the same in all these solitary entities related to proliferation of histiocytes.[/i]  I think it all depends on whether you are a lumper or a splitter. As a clinician, all that I am interested is that whether this is benign or not (probably is- in this case). Maybe 'Benign Reactive Histiocytic proliferation' to encompass all these benign, reactive entities, is more apt? However it gives us great pleasure as diagnosticians to be able to make a 'diagnosis' when actually we are just giving a name to a simple reactive phenomenon associated with histiocytic proliferation of a particular phenotype. :)
 
Guest nidal - xanthogranuloma ,no enough plasma cells to call it Rosai Dorfman immunos are needed
 
Dr. Richard Carr - I called it an adult type eruptive xanthogranuloma. S100 was weakly positive in the histiocytes but the control was super strong so I disregarded it, CD68 was impressively positive. There is emperipolesis (rather focal) and this has been described. The lesion has quite a number of perfect Touton giant cells (I did not highlight these in the images just to create a bit more difficulty) although I appreactiate morphologically there is an overlap with reticulohistiocytoma. I don't recall seeing this number of esoinophils in CRDD myself. What struck me in this case were some quite huge nuclei in the histiocytes with very prominent nucleoli that in isolation could be quite concerning - not sure I photographed the best examples of that though. Hope you like my new camera!!
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