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Case Number : Case 1212 - 13 February Posted By: Guest

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F87. Lesion on nose. ?BCC

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Dr. Mona Abdel-Halim

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From sebaceous tumors, I worked out in mind: Well differentiated seb carcinoma vs. Sebaceoma.
I think the architecture (not that well circumscribed and the slightly infiltrative lower border) and the significant atypical mitoses will favour well differentiated seb carcinoma.
The rare BCC with seb differentiation should have shown typical peripheral palisading and peritumoral mucinous artefacts which is not the case (only minimal focal palisading)
Would love to see EMA and BerEP4

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Guest Romualdo

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I think the presence of numerous mitotic figures, some of them apparently atypical, and the extremely limited foci of sebaceous differentiation favor a poorly differentiated sebaceous carcinoma.

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Eman El-Nabarawy

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Favor BCC with sebaceous differentiation.

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Dr. Richard Carr

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[img]https://dermpathpro.com/uploads/spot_diagnosis_comment_img/Case_1212_RAC6949x40b_EMA_4pm.jpg[/img]

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Dr. Richard Carr

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[img]https://dermpathpro.com/uploads/spot_diagnosis_comment_img/Case_1212_RAC6949x10_BerEP4_4pm.jpg[/img]

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Mark A. Hurt MD

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I also favor sebaceous carcinoma. These are notorious lesions to diagnose when poorly differentiated. I suspect that the sebocytic differentiation is wider spread than in these photos. Adipophilin and androgen receptor might be useful.

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Dr. Mona Abdel-Halim

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EMA is highlighting ducts and focally staining some cells (mature sebocytes) , immature cells/ basaloid cells are negative. This is seen in Sebaceoma and Seb Carc.
BerEP4 is negative apart from a tiny focus. This speaks against BCC.
Seb Carc is usually BerEP4 positive while Sebaceoma is BerEP4 negative.
So this case on IHC is following Sebaceoma pattern.
Although, after some reading, I found that sebaceomas can have conspicuous mitotic activity, still I am not comfortable with the architecture of this lesion being a benign architecture and I am still favoring Seb Carc and I need help !!
Also, I think that exclusion of Muir Torre syndrome is important.

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nick turnbull

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sebaceoma with prominent mitotic activity? I'm anxious about sebaceous carcinoma. , ki67, p53, p21? Looking forward to the answer when I get up in the morning. Goodnight all from NZ

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Dr. Richard Carr

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This was a difficult case. I reported the prior punch biopsy as a poorly differentiated sebaceous carcinoma then reviewed it at an MDM and in view of close resemblance to BCC watered down my report initial report as follows:
SUPPLEMENTARY REPORT: DR R A CARR
Immunostain shows moderate focal BerEP4 staining. EMA is limited to sebaceous duct differentiation. I cannot entirely rule out BCC with sebaceous differentiation.

The excision (illustrated) was reported at a sister institution as a nodular BCC with no mention of the sebaceous differentiation (which was pretty focal and these images are representative).

I reviewed the case and issued a supplementary as follows:
Sections reviewed for Skin MDM. Malignant basaloid tumour with distinctive amphophilic rounded nuclei. There is no significant palisading, retraction or interstitial mucin. BerEP4 is negative. EMA confirms morphological impression of focal sebaceous duct differentiation. A difficult case, but in combination with the prior biopsy, the weight of evidence favours poorly differentiated sebaceous carcinoma rather than basal cell carcinoma. The deep margin is very close.

Learning points: As Mona says be careful to make sure you seen good palisading with retraction artefact and interstial mucin before excluding mimics of BCC like basaloid SCC and sebaceous carcinoma. I suspect a good proportion (though certainly not all) metastasising BCC are other tumours. Like Romualdo & Mark I called it poorly differentiated (basaloid predominant and highly mitotic). This case had particularly well developed focal sebaceous ductal differentiation (distincitve abrupt compact keratin with bubbly effect). Solitary sebaceous carcinomas on the H&N of the elderly have a low association with Muir Torre syndrome.

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