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Case Number : Case 2762 - 5 February 2021 Posted By: Dr. Richard Carr

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Richard Logan

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Using Dr. Carr's proposed scoring system to distinguish between keratoacanthoma and follicular squamous carcinoma (see case 2707 posted 20th November 2020) I scored this at 12/32 (in the absence of EVG stain).  That pushes me towards a diagnosis of follicular squamous carcinoma.

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Meenakshi Batrani

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I see multiple squamous eddies, making me think of inverted follicular keratosis. 

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Eman El-Nabarawy

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Keratoacanthoma-like inverted follicular keratosis.

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Alex-Ventura-Leon

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Follicular SCC for me. Pushing borders

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It’s a very low grade malignancy, of course. And an inverted follicular keratosis pattern could fit better an irritated SK...but mucin secretion and some atypical mitosis make me think of fSCC, pushing borders. 

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Dr. Richard Carr

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Good discussion which highlights the differential nicely. What about the IHC interpretation?

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Alex-Ventura-Leon

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P53 is wild type (that would favor KA)

P16 is null type (that would favor SCC)

No intraepithelial collagen trapping (that would favor SCC)

At least that is my intrepretation

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Dr. Richard Carr

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Okay thanks for adding these additional comments. 

p16 we'd expect to show a nice checkerboard / mosaic pattern in a proliferative lesion that appears to be from the central face of an elderly man. I did not show but there was moderate solar elastosis. We have quite a bit of lesion and it's a complete null pattern. For me this is incompatible with a benign diagnosis although one has to be aware of context a non-inflamed benign lesion on non-sun-damaged skin for example might have constitutively low expression of p16 (like some completely banal naevi).

p53 here to me is markedly up-regulated and I suspect this is wild type protein trying to compensate for the loss of p16 function. I'd probably interpret this pattern as aberrantly high rather than a pure wild type / reactive pattern. 

Given the null p16 this sways me towards a follicular SCC, the completely circumscript borders and lack of entrapment on EVG for me are compatible with an in situ lesion (for practical purposes i.e. considered to lack metastatic potential).

In this case the differential is more IFK v's FSCC with IFK-like features rather than KA so the scoring is not really appropriate. An IFK or SEBK with some KA-like features will give  high scores. I have to say this case is highly challenging without the IHC. With the IHC we can make a pretty confident diagnosis.

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Meenakshi Batrani

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17 hours ago, Dr. Richard Carr said:

Okay thanks for adding these additional comments. 

p16 we'd expect to show a nice checkerboard / mosaic pattern in a proliferative lesion that appears to be from the central face of an elderly man. I did not show but there was moderate solar elastosis. We have quite a bit of lesion and it's a complete null pattern. For me this is incompatible with a benign diagnosis although one has to be aware of context a non-inflamed benign lesion on non-sun-damaged skin for example might have constitutively low expression of p16 (like some completely banal naevi).

p53 here to me is markedly up-regulated and I suspect this is wild type protein trying to compensate for the loss of p16 function. I'd probably interpret this pattern as aberrantly high rather than a pure wild type / reactive pattern. 

Given the null p16 this sways me towards a follicular SCC, the completely circumscript borders and lack of entrapment on EVG for me are compatible with an in situ lesion (for practical purposes i.e. considered to lack metastatic potential).

In this case the differential is more IFK v's FSCC with IFK-like features rather than KA so the scoring is not really appropriate. An IFK or SEBK with some KA-like features will give  high scores. I have to say this case is highly challenging without the IHC. With the IHC we can make a pretty confident diagnosis.

Thanks Dr. Carr for posting these challenging cases and the relevant interpretations. It is a great learning for us. 

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DR NADINE BURKE

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ive had a go with the IHC-it is really helpful and works!

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